AA’s with an open cab (76-A or 76-B) used the same mirror installation as was used for the A chassis with these bodies. Details of the mirror brackets and mirror are found in the RGJS page 10-8. The 330-A School Bus and Passenger Bus used inside mirror AA-17704 (approximately 6″ high x 9″ wide) installed in an A chassis mirror bracket (design unknown). The 330-A Passenger Bus also came with a side view mirror.
AA’s with a closed cab (82-A or 82-B) or those having a closed body came with a left side view mirror installation only. A right side view mirror or an interior rear view mirror was not provided with these AA’s. The 330-A Passenger Bus was an exception and was supplied with both inside and side view mirrors. The table below identifies the left side view mirror installations (bracket and mirror combination) for each closed body or for each closed cab+cargo body.
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|Ford Model AA’s – Side View Mirror Installations|
|AA Vehicle – Body or Cab+Cargo Body||Mirror Installation|
|*1 – cab with 1-1/2″ spaced bracket mounting holes
*2 – cab with 2-1/8″ spaced bracket mounting holes
*3 – cab with 2″ spaced bracket mounting holes
*4 – platform with or without racks
*5 – mirror A-17727 had four designs (d1-d4)
*6 – A-17728 mirror assembly was part A-17729 until March 1929. A-17729 then became a mirror assembly with a nickel plated retainer frame (not used on AA’s).
*7 – Standrive 315-A mirror bracket was a double bent bracket which bolts to the windshield header. The bracket (not shown) and the A-17723-B mirror assembly were painted body color.
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|82-A||Closed Cab *1||any cargo body or cab/chassis only||12/27-er/28||A-17737 d1||A-17727 *5||hinge-pillar d1|
|82-A||Closed Cab *2||any cargo body or cab/chassis only||er/28-03/29||A-17737 d2||A-17727 *5||hinge-pillar d2-d3|
|82-A||Closed Cab *3||express (89-A) or cab/chassis only||01/29-11/29||A-17741 d1||A-17728 *6||hinge-pillar d4-d5|
|82-A||Closed Cab *3||express (89-A) or cab/chassis only||11/29-06/30||A-17741 d2||A-17728||hinge-pillar d5|
|82-A||Closed Cab *3||platform (88-A) without racks||01/29-09/29||A-17741 d1||A-17728 *6||hinge-pillar d4-d5|
|82-A||Closed Cab *3||platform (88-A) with racks (188-A, 134-A, 134-B)||03/29-09/29||AA-17745||A-17728||hinge-pillar d5|
|82-A||Closed Cab *3||platform (88-A) *4||09/29-06/30||AA-17745||A-17728||hinge-pillar d5|
|82-B||Closed Cab||express (89-A, 195-A, 197-A), service (229-A), dump, garbage, coal, or cab/chassis only||06/30-02/31||A-17741-B||A-17728||upper hinge|
|82-B||Closed Cab||platform (88-A, 185-A or 185-B) *4||06/30-02/31||AA-17745-B||A-17728||upper hinge|
|82-B||Closed Cab||service (229-A) cab/chassis only||03/31-end||A-17742-B||A-17723-B||upper hinge|
|82-B||Closed Cab||express (195-A, 197-A, 239-A, or 242-A), dump, garbage, or coal (except 201-B)||03/31-end||AA-17745-C||A-17723-B||upper hinge|
|82-B||Closed Cab||platform (185-B or 187-A) *4 or coal (201-B)||03/31-04/31||AA-17745-C||A-17723-B||upper hinge|
|82-B||Closed Cab||platform (185-B or 187-A) *4, coal (201-B), or grain (248-A or 244-A)||05/31-end||AA-17698||A-17723-B||upper hinge|
|85-A||Panel Delivery *2||08/28-03/29||A-17737 d2||A-17727 *5||hinge-pillar d2-d3|
|85-A||Panel Delivery *3||01/29-11/29||A-17741 d1||A-17728 *6||hinge-pillar d4-d5|
|11/29-06/30||A-17741 d2||A-17728||hinge-pillar d5|
|85-B||Panel Delivery||06/30-02/31||A-17741-B||A-17728||upper hinge|
|210-A||Panel Delivery||03/31-08/31||AA-17697||A-17723-B||upper hinge|
|270-A||Funeral Service||er/31-end||A-17742-A||A-17723-A||upper hinge|
|275-A||Funeral Coach||er/31-end||A-17742-A||A-17723-A||upper hinge|
|285-A||DeLuxe Police Patrol||er/31-end||A-17742-A||A-17723-A||upper hinge|
|290-A||Standard Police Patrol||er/31-02/31||A-17741-B||A-17728||upper hinge|
|300-A||DeLuxe Delivery||02/31-end||A-17742-A||A-17723-A||upper hinge|
For the 82-A closed cab and the 85-A panel delivery, the mirror bracket was installed on the left hinge-pillar at one of several locations depending on the design of this pillar (i.e. part A-79356 coupe pillar). There were five left hinge-pillar designs which determined the mirror bracket(s) that was used and its location. There was some production date overlap of the hinge-pillar designs.
The hinge-pillar designs had a tapping block or D-nuts installed to receive the mirror bracket fasteners. Hinge-pillar d1, d2, and d4 had a tapping block (i.e. threaded bar) tack welded to the inside of the pillar. Hinge-pillar d3 had either a tapping block or D-nuts installed. Hinge-pillar d5 had D-nuts installed. A sample tapping block is shown in the gallery below.
Note – Some AA restoration projects are put together without the original 82-A or 85-A body. Consequently, the hinge-pillar design may not match up with the intended month/year of the project. For example – a September 1929 AA project with a June 1928 82-A closed cab will have the wrong hinge-pillar for the project. The hinge-pillar would need to be changed to the correct design if originality is desired.
A-17737 d1 – 12/27-er/28 – A 7-1/4″ long mirror bracket installed on left hinge-pillar d1 (see gallery). Fasteners were two, 1/4-20 bolts with 3/8 hex heads and lock washers (black enamel).
A-17737 d2 – er/28-3/29 – A 7-1/4″ long mirror bracket installed on left hinge-pillar d2 or d3 (see gallery). Fasteners were two 1/4″-20 oval head, slotted machine screws (Nickel plated).
A-17741 d1 – 1/29-11/29 – A 6″ long mirror bracket installed on left hinge-pillar d4 or d5 (see gallery). Fasteners were two 5/16-24 x 7/8 dome headed hex bolts and lock washers (black enamel). Starting in April of 1929 a black fiber pad was used between the bracket and pillar. There was a 5/16-18 x 13/32 special 7/16 hex head clamping bolt on the outer end (used to clamp the mirror assembly to the bracket).
A-17741 d2 – 11/29-6/30 – A 6″ long mirror bracket installed to the D-nuts of left hinge-pillar d5 (see gallery). Fasteners were two 5/16-24 x 7/8 dome headed hex bolts and lock washers (black enamel). A black fiber pad was used between the bracket and pillar. There was a 5/16-18 x 13/32 special 7/16 hex head clamping bolt on the outer end (used to clamp the mirror assembly to the bracket).
AA-17745 – 3/29-6/30 (see table for cargo body requirements) – An 11-1/16″ long mirror bracket installed to the D-nuts of left hinge-pillar d5 (see gallery). Fasteners were two 5/16-24 x 7/8 dome headed hex bolts and lock washers (black enamel). Starting in April of 1929 a black fiber pad was used between the bracket and pillar. There was a 5/16-18 x 13/32 special 7/16 hex head clamping bolt on the outer end (used to clamp the mirror assembly to the bracket).
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Mirror Brackets Gallery – 82-A Closed Cab and 85-A Panel Delivery
Starting in June 1930 the new 82-B closed cab and the 85-B panel delivery body types began production. The two different mirror brackets for these new body types were installed on the left, upper door-hinge. This same door-hinge location was used for additional closed body types introduced starting in early 1931. Starting March 1931 new mirror brackets were introduced which replace the prior brackets. The 315-A Standrive and 330-B Passenger Bus were the only exceptions to this side view mirror bracket location.
These brackets fit over the left, upper hinge and were held in place with a 2” long hinge pin. There were two threaded holes in the hinge on the door side. Two special headed machine screws and lock washers secured the bracket to the hinge preventing the bracket from moving forward. There was a design 1 door hinge with a 3/16″ clearance between the two threaded holes (for the bracket-to-hinge screws) and the door. The new mirror brackets introduced in March 1931 used a design 2 door hinge with 1/2″ clearance between the two threaded holes and the door. The fasteners were as follows:
1 – A-80280-A – Pin (mirror bracket to hinge) 2” (black)
1 – A-80280-B – Pin (mirror bracket to hinge) 2” (chrome) with chrome plated bracket A-17742-A
2 – A-20428-S3 – screw (mirror bracket to hinge) #12-24 (3/8) special head screw (.435” head)
2 – A-22139-S3 – washer (mirror bracket to hinge screw) 7/32 (1/16 x 27/64) lock washer (tangleproof)
Hinge Installed Mirror Brackets Gallery
These brackets used a 5/16″-18 x 13/32″ acorn 7/16″ hex bolt (raven finish and black paint, head only).
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